"Storz" (storzbach)
01/30/2014 at 11:51 • Filed to: None | 0 | 26 |
I want a 4 door car the size of a Cruze/Focus, that is rwd with a turbocharged 4cly in the 250-300hp range and a 6 speed manual gear box for around 25k dollars.
Seems like the first company to make something like this would have a real winner on their hands, I realize some older BMWs etc may come close this but they are older now and new stuff is much larger and obviously more expensive.
Mikeado
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:52 | 0 |
Subaru STI is pretty damn close if you rip out the front diff.
willkinton247
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:52 | 1 |
Money, Money, Money,
And a bit more Money.
doodon2whls
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:53 | 2 |
you (us) /= mainstream market.
PilotMan
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:53 | 1 |
They do exist, they are just priced at $10,000-15,000 more than you would like. See ATS, 3 series, etc...
Buy used.
Brian Silvestro
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:53 | 1 |
I really want that too. Alfa Romeo might have one here in a few years.
Party-vi
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:53 | 5 |
1) Convince new car shopper to purchase a BMW 228i.
2) Wait until they want to sell it.
3) Buy a now used BMW 228i for $25k.
4) Hoon.
Audi-os, amigos
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:54 | 0 |
Because 300 horsepower from a 4-banger takes some serious (read: expensive) doing.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:56 | 0 |
It's the turbo four that I don't agree with, and the six-speed I could take or leave, but the rest of it sounds muy excelente - and also with the exception of four-door, not too badly served by the Mustang...
I think it's mostly the very minimal intersection between turbo4 and rwd enthusiasts, but I could be wrong.
ColoradoTaco
> Mikeado
01/30/2014 at 11:56 | 0 |
Not for $25k, that's more WRX money than STI money.
RW53104
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:57 | 0 |
Aside from the turbo part, this sort of fits the bill.
Storz
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
01/30/2014 at 11:57 | 0 |
It could almost be a parts bin car for most manufacturers.
Ryanator122
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:57 | 0 |
2 years, Used CLA.
CAR_IS_MI
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:57 | 0 |
You can buy an EVO or STI and rip the front shafts out...
NeilR
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:58 | 1 |
Cruze SS. C'mon Chevy, we know you can do it.
The regular Cruze is already a pretty good chassis, my dad has one. Pretty fun to drive.
Sn210
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 11:59 | 0 |
Frs/BRZ sedan if they build it? Just needs a turbo
Storz
> Ryanator122
01/30/2014 at 12:18 | 0 |
FWD
Storz
> NeilR
01/30/2014 at 12:18 | 1 |
I would rock an AWD Cruze SS. High HP fwd cars just don't do it for me.
RazoE
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 12:21 | 1 |
The problem is folks that get small cars still ask for lots of space, rwd takes up tons of space.
Second, since such a car doesn't exist at the moment, it would cost tons to develop a new platform, driving up costs.
Third, that's a lot of hp to ask of a 4ycl, so it would need to be beefed up with forged internals, etc., so now it's even more expensive.
The only way I can see it happening is if Ford cuts the Mustang platform, adds 2 doors, and drops in an ecoboost. Even then.......
Storz
> Party-vi
01/30/2014 at 12:24 | 0 |
The 2 Series is coupe only no...?
Storz
> RazoE
01/30/2014 at 12:29 | 1 |
How about a Hyundai then, they already have the motor and architecture with the Genesis cars.
puddler
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 12:40 | 0 |
it exists very much, but for that kind of awesomeness you'll have to buy used and build it. 25k will build a whole lot of what you want. or get an sti, lock the transfer case & remove the front halfshafts.
puddler
> puddler
01/30/2014 at 13:25 | 0 |
Party-vi
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 14:12 | 0 |
Oh. Shit. Well you got me there hmm. Ok, do the same for a 328i.
OH BETTER IDEA!
Find a 320i with a manual and get it lightly used. New the 320i with a manny tranny (giggity) should only run $33k. In a year that could drop to $25k or more depending on mileage and with a reflash or proper tune (thinking Dinan) you could boost that 180hp to 240hp.
Storz
> Party-vi
01/30/2014 at 14:28 | 0 |
No 320i stateside :(
Party-vi
> Storz
01/30/2014 at 14:33 | 0 |
Yes there is . It's the new base model 3-series. Same engine as the 328i but with 180hp instead of 240hp.
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Storz
> Party-vi
01/30/2014 at 14:36 | 0 |
Learn something new every day. :-)